After reading the book chapter, “Designing Instructional Strategies: A Cognitive Perspective” by Silber and Foshay, I proceeded to complete my midterm task 3 on an expert profile of Dr. Foshay. I listened to a lot of interviews, read more interviews and really connected with things he was saying about the corporate training world not being prepared with enough content experts who also have instructional design training. This chapter from Pershing’s Handbook of Human Performance Technology: Principles, Practices and Potential, read like a handbook for the layman. Someone who was promoted to trainer, without any prior instructional design training, could read this chapter and immediately make connections with the content matter they are meant to teach and the structured, cognitive approach to these instructional strategies.
My father was a corporate trainer for many years, after careers in two other fields prior, and he never had any training in instructional design. Luckily, as a trained pastor and teacher (as well as a natural-born teacher), he fit into the corporate trainer role quite easily. After reading this chapter, I wonder if having a framework such as the strategies outlined here would have made his job a lot easier.
In my research of Dr. Foshay, I came across an interview with EPPIC from 2014, where Foshay was lamenting the fact that most organizations are at great risk because their most valuable assets, their high-level experts who have been at the organization for 10-20 years, are small in number and cannot be replicated. He went on to say that when you ask these experts how they learned what they know to solve problems every day, they say that it can’t be taught. Foshay refutes this statement and believes that research shows that you can teach it, you can measure it, and it can be done with more efficiency than trial and error over decades. Yet, most training departments don’t focus on learning what the long-termers know, but they focus on low-level, procedural tasks that can be defined, instead of focusing on what is most important to the organization.
Hearing this resonated with me, as I had been in international education for 22 years (prior to a COVID layoff). Looking back on my two most recent positions, in my six and a half years at Butler University, I was a one person office. When I left the position, it took them two years to fill it, and I remember always telling others that no one really knew what I did, and that put the institution in a bad place. In my last job, I was there for just over 10 years, and the second longest tenure in our organization. Whenever I hired people, I looked for how I could teach them what I know in a short period of time. My institutional knowledge (not just of our organization, but of the 60+ universities around the globe we worked with), along with relationships I had built, programs I had managed and problems I had solved, were really hard to replicate. I would have loved to have known how to measure what I knew so that I
could teach it to those I was managing. We did our best teaching processes and procedures, and teaching by example (i.e. traveling together the first time or two, seeing emails I sent to students or university contacts to learn the communication part). But I want to know Dr. Foshay’s secret to measuring and teaching expertise, because even today, I tell my husband all the time, “I don’t know how I know what I know.”
Foshay is still asking the big questions: What is expertise? How do you measure it? How do you teach it? How do you define it in an organization? He still considers this “cutting-edge work”….How do you teach what you know?
Resources
Pershing, J. A., Silber, K. H., & Foshay, W. R. (2006). Designing Instructional Strategies: A Cognitive Perspective. In Handbook of human performance technology: Principles, practices, and potential (3rd ed., pp. 370–413). essay, Pfeiffer.
Wallace, G. (2014, December 21). HPT legacy 2010 Rob Foshay. YouTube. Retrieved September 19, 2021, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=XJG1NdsXKzw.
Hi Melissa,
Thanks for sharing your experience. It's interesting to rethink the topic of expertise after reading your reflection. Is it the experience or the expertise that is hard to replace that leads to a challenging position in hiring? I don't mean to say the two concepts are mutually exclusive (and experience certainly develop expertise), but I think their difference could guide our thinking on the core qualities for a certain job position.
The statement you made, "I don't know how I know what I know" is interesting and I can see that being applied to all kinds of professions. Like you said, knowing this would help measure expertise and pass the knowledge to a new colleague, and would definitely…
Hey Melissa,
Great analysis of last week's readings and your midterm assignment! I like your point of how most companies have few SMEs that are extremely hard to replace after a given amount of years. You then discussed your experiences with being an SME yourself and how hard it was for your role to be filled after you left.
This led me to think of two things.
1) The notion of how amateur learners can learn a great deal from experts simply by observing and being around experts to see how they do their job (Expert shadowing)
2) In terms of you finishing a role and passing it on to someone else, I think here case studies could be an…
Hi Melissa,
Since you mentioned that for most experts, especially for those at high-level and have been at the organization for 10-20 years, most valuable assets are not easily be replicated and taught, it reminds me of the paper I read three weeks ago, Designing Instructional Systems. In its paragraph “Why Instructional Design Model?” Molenda, Pershing & Reigeluth stated that the model “is an idealized guide that suggests what to do and when to do it” (Molenda, Pershing & Reigeluth, 1996, p.p. 268). The instructional design model is a great way for the experts to transform their high-level experiences into an idealized guide. “Models are sometimes meant to be followed literally as step-by-step procedural blueprints, but more often they are…
Hi Melissa,
What an interesting story you shared-about your father and about yourself, as well! I love your proclamation to your husband, "I don’t know how I know what I know." I think it was almost ironic that you found the interview with Dr. Foshay, perhaps guiding you to figure out your own statement, as you embark on the expertise and experience of designers in the ID dept.
Thanks for sharing!
It is amazing that your father worked in the training industry for so long with no formal background. I wonder if training departments are not focused on what is most important to the organization because those organizations do not have people with formal training, IST, or HPT within the training department. I know that HPT is a growing field and replacing a lot of HR positions right now. Is this a paradigm shift?
Looking at expertise, Foshay is asking some big questions. I think that expertise is a relative measure. Depending on the group you are in, your level of expertise can change; context matters when talking about expertise. When looking at passing work-related knowledge on to junior members, I…